Anonymous said: OK so since in your own words TV Tropes just lists tropes that seem to happen enough to be noticeable isn't it the media products writers fault the trope exists since they wrote it into their product and not TV Tropes for as I understand it pretty much saying "this is a thing"?
Yes and no. It’s bad on the part of the writers that they use offensive tropes in their media, but TVTropes reacts to these tropes in less-than stellar ways. For example, the White Guy and Asian Gal trope (formerly called “Me Love You Long Time”) lists examples of Asian fetishization by white men, but it also lists every example of interracial relationships they can think of. A wholesome relationship between a white man and an Asian woman is viewed on the same level as a white man who lusts after Asian women’s bodies. Another example is the Straight Gay trope, which many people in the media view as a “better” way of being gay, and Camp Gays are viewed as icky and unmanly. TVTropes views Straight Gay in a similar light when they say “This gay character isn’t a stereotype, which means he’s a good role model for kids” or something along those lines.
I dunno about anyone else, but I see the Straight Gay and Camp Gay tropes as:
Straight Gay- You’d assume they were straight unless they told they were gay.
Camp Gay- They act like or come off as a gay stereotype, usually for comedy purposes.
Also, while it is a bit insensitive to use the Asian Guy and White Gal trope in the manner you describe, in partial defense of tropers, the name is rather literal, and tropers tend to be literalists, so they list every example of the trope that fits the name, not bothering to draw a line between the difference you indicated, and yeah, that’s in bad taste.
All too often that’s the case.
The point of the original trope “Me Love You Long Time” was about the racist stereotype, one commonly depicted in media; it used an offensive name because the trope was an offensive one, so as not to sugarcoat it.
Someone got the name blanded because they were offended by the name, but unfortunately that made the literal minded turn it into “any white man/Asian woman relationship” which ain’t useful.